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  Jehovah's Vatican Scandal?

  by mrmagic in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  someone sent this link of kelso law firm and their blog post on cardinal pell being australia's most hated man.

  the implications are very interesting, as this is the 3rd most powerful man in the vatican.

  the catholic church is no doubt much larger than jehovah's witnesses, however, the jw's incidence of child sexual abuse is about 4 times higher than the catholic church's child sex abuse (and subsequent coverups).. the main thread tying cardinal pell and the other vatican scandals to jehovah's witnesses is the australian royal commission.

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  Well LongHairGal glad that statistics and facts don't affect your opinion.
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  JW Losses Civil Case Against Hospital

  by John Davis in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  jw family loses a civil case against a pa hospital where the mother died after bleeding following child birth.

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  http://law.justia.com/cases/pennsylvania/superior-court/2017/1838-eda-2015.html.

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  JW Family loses a civil case against a PA Hospital where the mother died after bleeding following child birth.

  http://law.justia.com/cases/pennsylvania/superior-court/2017/1838-eda-2015.html
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  If they stopped the monthly report card ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  witnessing would cease, would it flow on to attendance numbers at meetings and then total decimation of the church..

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  1 month of no report is irregular. 6 months of no reporting and you are inactive.
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  Jehovah's Vatican Scandal?

  by mrmagic in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  someone sent this link of kelso law firm and their blog post on cardinal pell being australia's most hated man.

  the implications are very interesting, as this is the 3rd most powerful man in the vatican.

  the catholic church is no doubt much larger than jehovah's witnesses, however, the jw's incidence of child sexual abuse is about 4 times higher than the catholic church's child sex abuse (and subsequent coverups).. the main thread tying cardinal pell and the other vatican scandals to jehovah's witnesses is the australian royal commission.

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  John Davis

  I understand that it is a ratio that you are looking at but you would have to do a ratio of the number of Catholic priests to the number of Catholic priests who are paedophiles, that is one ratio. Then you would do a ratio of the number of elders to the number of elders that are paedophiles. So it is not just a ratio of priests to the number of Catholics just like elders to the number of JWs.
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  Jehovah's Vatican Scandal?

  by mrmagic in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  someone sent this link of kelso law firm and their blog post on cardinal pell being australia's most hated man.

  the implications are very interesting, as this is the 3rd most powerful man in the vatican.

  the catholic church is no doubt much larger than jehovah's witnesses, however, the jw's incidence of child sexual abuse is about 4 times higher than the catholic church's child sex abuse (and subsequent coverups).. the main thread tying cardinal pell and the other vatican scandals to jehovah's witnesses is the australian royal commission.

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  I am in no way saying that Watchtower doesn't have a problem with paedophiles. But unless you are saying that all JWs are the equivalent in rank to a Catholic Priest then the numbers don't add up. Yes, there are 1,006 paedophiles that were found by the ARC but not all of them were elders, which I would consider as the equivalent to a Catholic Priest or a Protestant Minister. Only a small amount were actually elders or pioneers or MS, while the rest were just publishers in the congregations. Unless the ARC took into account every paedophile's religion into consideration and tallied that up to give a number of paedophiles in each religion you cannot compare apples to apples but you are comparing apples to oranges.
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  Jehovah's Vatican Scandal?

  by mrmagic in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  someone sent this link of kelso law firm and their blog post on cardinal pell being australia's most hated man.

  the implications are very interesting, as this is the 3rd most powerful man in the vatican.

  the catholic church is no doubt much larger than jehovah's witnesses, however, the jw's incidence of child sexual abuse is about 4 times higher than the catholic church's child sex abuse (and subsequent coverups).. the main thread tying cardinal pell and the other vatican scandals to jehovah's witnesses is the australian royal commission.

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  Again there is the statement that it is 4 times as bad as the Catholic Church. that is a definitive statement, so there has to be proof of that.
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  Jehovah's Vatican Scandal?

  by mrmagic in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  someone sent this link of kelso law firm and their blog post on cardinal pell being australia's most hated man.

  the implications are very interesting, as this is the 3rd most powerful man in the vatican.

  the catholic church is no doubt much larger than jehovah's witnesses, however, the jw's incidence of child sexual abuse is about 4 times higher than the catholic church's child sex abuse (and subsequent coverups).. the main thread tying cardinal pell and the other vatican scandals to jehovah's witnesses is the australian royal commission.

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  Obviously, the child abuse issue within Watchtower is bad. But I don't get how people say it is 4 times or on JWSurvey one commenter keeps saying 18 times worst than the Catholic Church. I don't get where you are coming up with these comparison numbers.
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  Gerrit Losch Claims JW's Attending College Are Spiritually Weak

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.facebook.com/jw.0027/videos/799049613609936/.

  the video was posted directly to a pro-jw facebook page.

  i cant believe what i'm hearing... actually, nothing surprises be about this cult anymore.. didn't they say to the judge in the arc that they dont discourage college?.

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  John Davis

  People may not say it on this thread. But on a number of other threads, people disparage people who have these service jobs. Yes everyone wants a million dollar job but not everyone is going to get it.
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  Gerrit Losch Claims JW's Attending College Are Spiritually Weak

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.facebook.com/jw.0027/videos/799049613609936/.

  the video was posted directly to a pro-jw facebook page.

  i cant believe what i'm hearing... actually, nothing surprises be about this cult anymore.. didn't they say to the judge in the arc that they dont discourage college?.

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  John Davis

  Like I said I understand why people on here are so mad at the statement. But also a number of people here think that College is a guarantee of a good job. Do you know how many people with college degrees that have been out of work? While yes generally a college degree does raise the expected earnings of people, it is not a guarantee to a good job. Also, a number of people here speak with such disrespect for jobs like janitors or window washers. These can be good paying jobs with good benefits and there is nothing wrong with those types of jobs. A janitor can make more money than a person with a Masters in Fine Art. It is also the perspective that the person has towards their job that has to be taken into consideration.
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  Gerrit Losch Claims JW's Attending College Are Spiritually Weak

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.facebook.com/jw.0027/videos/799049613609936/.

  the video was posted directly to a pro-jw facebook page.

  i cant believe what i'm hearing... actually, nothing surprises be about this cult anymore.. didn't they say to the judge in the arc that they dont discourage college?.

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  John Davis

  I do understand why many of you are upset but not everyone needs to go to college and even those that do a lot don't graduate from college. Even during the last Republican primary campaign, Ted Cruz advocated not every student needed to go to college, in fact, he was an advocate for expanding apprentenship programs. Now a days there are programs and jobs that don't need degrees but need to know how to do the work, like in computers and technology. There are CS Degrees but employers have discovered that they don't so much need people with the Degree but the people who can actually do what is needed to be done.